The DGCA Strikes Back

Started by sanjayrai55, October 11, 2014, 01:56:02 PM

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paladugu_sujith

as said.. those chimps did it all who got no knowledge of flying machines..  and the notice said UAS.. which includes aero models..

pravesh736

RTi requesting definition of UAV/uas should help. And it's the pizza and Amazon idiots who got this to us with the flank help of phantom fliers.

laxmansuthar

Quote from: rcpilotacro on October 11, 2014, 09:52:03 PM
For all and sundry

AMAI is undergoing a lot of change, last heard Mr Nagar is no more the President of AMAI, as usual..this petty politics too was predicted

Quote from: rcpilotacro on October 22, 2011, 06:18:26 PM


In fact federation will be engaged in petty politics when the axe comes down, it is mass movement from  free spirits through forums like this that will / can make a difference.



PS
no offense meant or implied


Gusty sir,
Vijendra Nagar is still president Of AMA.
Futaba T7c.2.4, boomrang trainer 46., 60size Extra 300s, Raptor 30v2, raptor 50 Titan, electric biplane, Thunder Tiger raptor 50 titan Se, J3 piper cub, Tarot 450 sports, Align 500,

paladugu_sujith

Hey laxman.

Any updates to amai from dgca on this??

paladugu_sujith

Let us know anything amai is doing on this issue.

laxmansuthar

sure,
we will discuss with our members & professionals. & will update soon

regards
laxman
Futaba T7c.2.4, boomrang trainer 46., 60size Extra 300s, Raptor 30v2, raptor 50 Titan, electric biplane, Thunder Tiger raptor 50 titan Se, J3 piper cub, Tarot 450 sports, Align 500,

sanjayrai55

Now it has been 27 hours since my first post, and I have observed with amusement and sometimes concern the volley of comments on this.

But really guys, before this announcement, what was the legal standing of the Aeromodelling (and other RC) Hobby?

There was never any clear guideline!! Or Rules!! Or Laws!! The only applicable law was the Wireless one. But as to actual flying, racing or sailing? Nothing really.

Let's talk about Flying only. A Flyer could be deemed performing an illegal activity under a host of laws, each interpreted to suit convenience. eg he could be said to be causing public nuisance, creating lethal hazards for general public, deploying a remote-controlled weapon......

In short, we are open to harassment from a law enforcer.

This Hobby was basically under wraps; get kicked out from one field, go to another. In the Metro cities, public  fields are in acute shortage, and inevitably have to be shared with other sport and pastime.

So, maybe this could prove a blessing in disguise.

Hopefully there will be clear laws on this, and from an area of grey shadow, the Hobby will have a recognized existence. Right now we have AMAI, maybe a couple other bodies, with some ridiculous affiliation to Aero Club of India (honestly, yaar.... :giggle: :giggle:) and no real authority.

Maybe what eventually evolves will be a real change, the Hobby will have a clearly defined set of rules, and it could seriously grow the way it has in other countries. Which will be highly beficial.

So, let us wait and watch. In the meanwhile let us continue to break laws as we have been doing for so long  :)

wingmanbunty


i like it  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

"continue to break laws as we have been doing for so long  "
EAT ,SLEEP , FLY

wingmanbunty

thats the starting piont and trouble is growing
"phantoms and flying in public places to make money."
EAT ,SLEEP , FLY

paladugu_sujith

I went flying today anyways.. Hehe

sachin_k5

#85
Here is where it started from...

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/others/Police-ban-Drones-from-city-skies/articleshow/41661016.cms

from the article..
According to senior Directorate General of Civil Aviation official, the pizza-delivery experiment induced the agency to seek an opinion from its Mumbai office on regulatory guidelines regarding drones.


....Then a few months down the line the notice comes.

tantragna

Quote from: sundaram on October 12, 2014, 12:51:35 AM

I am thinking like dgca... if it ever happens, then I can launch my own satellite.. :giggle: Nice troll sir ;D

v2 eagle

Quote from: sanjayrai55 on October 12, 2014, 04:40:59 PM

Maybe what eventually evolves will be a real change, the Hobby will have a clearly defined set of rules, and it could seriously grow the way it has in other countries. Which will be highly beficial.


True!!!
Of these days no one knew if its legal or not.
maybe out of all these drama comes the result to regulate this hobby and we will have some sort of GO of what is legal and what is not.
and we can go flying with good understanding. Lets hope for the best.

Ashok.P
FPV with head goggles

http://ashokpkumar.wix.com/mysite

satyagupta

As being owner of LHS supplying parts to build multirotors. If this news is true (i mean followed) we would be at huge loss. We are not selling illegal items.

Second, if we all flyers be responsible.
1. Flying in open space away from residential place and such area where there are less chance of crowd.
2. And be RESPONSIBLE
3. Never loose sight of your aircraft, always fly in LoS.
4. And if possible try to fly in group.

You would be safe and cause no problem.
one stop for multirotor needs:
www.quadkopters.com

http://www.facebook.com/QuadKopters
https://www.youtube.com/user/QuadKopters
https://www.instagram.com/quadkopters

chintal

Satya ji its not  us hobby flyers its photographers buying phantoms and flying without proper knowledge and experience
I have seen them flying just a feet above crowd at events
At high speeds almost crashing into the stage or peoples face
Rcmumbai.com
Passion is Airborne

satyagupta

First of all they would not be flying at an event without permission. So if they are flying with permission and in such a manner then organizers are at fault.

And i really dont care about such flyers cos if they are responsible and care about this community then they would definitely take care about how they are flying.
one stop for multirotor needs:
www.quadkopters.com

http://www.facebook.com/QuadKopters
https://www.youtube.com/user/QuadKopters
https://www.instagram.com/quadkopters

rcforall

The fact that they are talking of regulation means the activity has far higher traction now than earlier.
So in the long term regulation might actually be good , there will rules that make the whole thing legal not a grey area activity .Like WPC type approvals for radios that we started with a couple of year back has actually resulted in legal imports of Radios .
Can some one point me to whom to approach regarding the regulations I volunteer to devote some time to engage with them from the Industry & enthusiast perspective to see that our concerns are heard and addressed  . 
Sai
www.zuppa.io : vehicle telematics, ADAS, IoT , Drones

sanjayrai55

Good initiative Sai

The DG himself of the Civil Aviation Department, and the Aviation Minister both are the decision makers here I should think

rcforall

That is what is apparent from the letter , Sanjay being in NCR could some of you there dig around a bit and find out the email ID of the official and then we could  write a mail something like :
" The initiative of regulating UAV is great and positive from the National Perspective blah blah blah ................   being an active group involved in this at various levels from hobby to business etc we would like to be involved in the process of framing regulations  blah blah blah ..........."

I am sure you get the gist of what I am trying to say and when we get an appointment a few of us from various walks of life involved in this could get down to Delhi and meet up with them etc etc etc .

What say ?
Sai 
www.zuppa.io : vehicle telematics, ADAS, IoT , Drones

sanjayrai55

Let me check, Sai. The addresses emails etc. will be on the web

girishsarwal



- for feedback

complete list of officials

http://dgca.nic.in/dgca/dir-ind.htm

As on the website
gs

SideWinder

Okay so whats the update?
I would be willing to come to delhi or wherever necessary to increase the numbers.

We can also draft up "Memorandum Of Demands" from our community, get it signed by members and submit it to the necessary depts in person.

I believe this is our chance to suggest/make our demands and necessary amendments, so that we can have proper rules and regulations with barrier to entry being minimum to the hobby.

chintal

Rcmumbai.com
Passion is Airborne

K K Iyer

Hi all members,
I emailed DGCA on 11th itself, but no response so far.
Have an idea.
Why not go to the local police station, tell them your ID and address, and that you fly RC Models on sundays at such and such a site. Invite them to come and see.
Security issue is therefore taken care of.

pravesh736

It's better not to hype this topic so much. The authority will just follow the FAA . And FAA is itself confused on how to regulate UAVs. So no point getting hopes so high. If anyone questions, carry a set of UAV pictures and show them what UAVs are. People on usa are having problems explaining to the government . I doubt it's going to be different here. No point involving police and all for anything other than Rc meets/functions. I doubt much people even heard of the notice. But just a few planned strategic moves instead of a stampede is good.