New project - Ideas on Maneuverability

Started by parichya.gautam, April 10, 2013, 07:49:07 AM

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parichya.gautam

ok , but what difference will be noticed with the EDF vs normal props ?

i have this kit with these parts :

http://www.rc-fever.com/alloy-450-quadcopter-aircraft-combo-kit-not-assembled.html
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Shyam Hembram

Well,i know its a bit easy to connect servo controls to edf than a simple motor-propeller combination. The latter one you need some patience to make frames which is not so easy. Also the edfs are  small  in size than those propellers.
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well i dont plan on designing the frame myself but AEROVISHNA will help there ( for a fee XD ) ..
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parichya.gautam

but i still need ideas on the mid air maneuverability .. how about using Ailerons with a single servo to one and second to another ?
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Shyam Hembram

Ohh,great thats called  thrust  vectoring,you can use it as ailerons
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Shyam Hembram

 See in a plane you have 2 servos connected to each wings individually.these two servo works in reverse direction with respect to each other when connected to a same channel using Y adapter  Thats a conventional plane model mechanism. Now in case of using those servos for wings you can directly connect  them to two of your motor and thats called thrust vectoring. 
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parichya.gautam

ok ... Y cable will make servo work in opposite direction on a single channel ? .. awesome :D ... so this takes care of the roll  of the plane ... how about the turning ?
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Shyam Hembram

No no Y cable,doesnt make the servo work in reverse direction, its the way of positioning ur servo that makes it work.
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ok got it ... and how exactly will i do that ?

and i have a 6ch tx , will it be enough ?
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Shyam Hembram

Yep,its enough,u can make it work only with 4 channels
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parichya.gautam

i mean for all the functions ... using as a quad and the extra controls ..
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Use channel 1 for throttle,channel 2 for elevator,3 for aileron and u can use channel 4 for tilting those  motors while VTOF
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Hi man those are universal remotes u can use it for heli,planes,car etc
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Shyam Hembram

Hi man can i come 2 ur place??bcz tomorow i will be in bbsr
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Use common servos for  aileron and rudder
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ya sure ! ive actually PMed you regarding this :) ill give the address and time ?
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do have any plan about the motor tilt Mechanism  if you have can you share it .

parichya.gautam

' Plans ' as in ? im yet to make a 3-d model or simulation of the mechanism via Catia or Auto-Cad , but as of now it will basically be like the motor and the prop will be fit at the edge of the each wing and the titling mechanism will be set at the joint where the motor and the wing meet ... so that's what
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Well, reading the total blog i wish to say a few basic steps you may like to follow:
DESIGN:
1. Do your homework on the design, speak to a few senior people here which would help to understand the plane you want to build better.
2. Experimental aeromodels by hobbyists are mostly designed from instinct, itellect and experience, i have never heard of people designing aeromodels from CATIA simply coz its not really required. However i appreciate your enthusiasm in it, pleased o go ahead with it. You may want to design it in CATIA V5/ProE, mesh it in HYPERMESH and analyze it in MSC/NX NASTRAN if you are intersted later, no pun intended. It would definitely give you good knowledge and understanding.

FLYING:
1. Do you have any prior RC flying experience, i guess not??
2. If you are a beginner and wish to fly a Canard delta aircraft of your own make, i would say its a rather high spirited idea but might prove costly. Learn flying for starters and go ahead with the plane later. Otherwise request some local flyers to help you learn it.
3. Get a clear idea on types of stablizers in all axes(yaw,pitch and roll) and how you can mix a pair of controls etc.
4. Learning to fly is very important, only that can give you an understanding of how to manipulate flight direction/attitude by control surfaces. No theory or reading would substitute for actual flying experience.

As Mod said, an opposition exists if you are trying to change the axis and plane of motor's, rigidity and precision as these are called are the basis of most of the Blind flying panel instruments in an aircraft cockpit. so i dont think a single servo moving two motors is justified!

It would probably be really feasible as Salam said if you just build a quad and fit a fuselage of your choice!
Please do keep us posted!!