This is to inform all that  with immediate effect  we are putting the following system into place for buying of Radios  :

1) Buyers will have to accept and sign an undertaking governing the use of the radio system and accept responsibility for its usage . Each transmitter will bear a serial number which  will be traceable to the buyer and would be incorporated in the undertaking .
2) Buyers will have to provide a Photo Identity or address Proof as is acceptable by other organizations such as driving license etc etc
3) Buyers will have to provide a contact number

We are   putting this system in place as during  our recent discussions with WPC they  expressed the  need to have  a record of  traceability of radios despite the fact that we are already maintaining a register of serial numbers  of radios sold by us . Our intention is to make it more fool proof by having documentary trace with the buyers involvement . This we feel will hopefully  make the usage  also more responsible.

Hence in the interest of the hobby and its users we feel this is a genuine  concern hence we  have decided to implement this system with immediate effect  .

I agree that  it might be a bit  inconvenient  for buyers initially  but in the long term it would do good to the hobby , hence I hope users  would stand with us in implementing this system  considering the long term benefit.

Bulk buyers such as hobby shops and retailers would be required to maintain the same records at their end as we will be  recording their details against the  serial numbers of radios sold to them , hence it would be their responsibility  to maintain traceability .

Sai  

PS : Will upload the undertaking format soon  for comments so that others could also offer their observations and comments to it there by come out with a standard format that other radio suppliers could also use.

SAD News,

For remote control tarriest activity, proportional control is not that much used than cell phone.

and

TV/DVD Remote (Infrared).

They use switching activity using cell phone vibrator driver circuit and remote tester circuit driving nichrome wire switching via MOS to ignite.

But our servo, ESC and Motor cannot ignite even block rotor as there are several protection is there. And hiding with the large size transmitter propotional control after blust will not been observed and will not observe as that is not a common thing and the culprit can easily be recognized. But TV Remote and cell phone is more common thing.

But neither IMEI logged nor TV ownerlogged with photo identity.

So, it's the person taking decision to LOG Tx/Rx
1. have no practical sence.
2. want to shows that he working, but actually he misguide the Govt. and misuse his power or in other way he helps terroist, unknowingly might be.

The sad thing in common administration is that almost everyone doing a part of other's job/giving reaction for canvasing himself neglecting his regular duty.

Now, Less Action, More reaction.
which should be
More Action less reaction. 

Dear Kalyan,

I would beg to differ with you on that. Criminal mind can come up with any thing, use anything to further his devious intentions. I for one has personally used a 7 Channel 72 Mhz Aero Model Tx to independently detonate 16 Remotely placed explosive cluster one by one over a distance of more than a KM using micro relays and servos circuits. That was way back in 1997 much before I was any where near Aero-modelling. Infact that was when my interest took to Aero-modelling after coming in contact with Col Neeladri Mukherji who is again an avid Aero-modeler of old times who was in Kolkatta till mid this year.

Yes I agree with you that Cellphones and any wireless communication device using DTMF is much better option today with the help of DTMF decoders, logic and switching circuits in terms of range and versatility of programming,  Which was again demonstrated by me to the Army way back in 2000.

Here in this case Govt is Apprehensive that an Aero-model is likely to be used as a remotely piloted missile Laden with explosive/ any weapon of destruction.

In this case the precaution to have every Legitimate aero-modeler and his Radio registered is a good move should be welcome. Its a progressive step towards making this beautiful Hobby legal and Legitimate.

Yes, that may bedue to he have easy access to Tx orhe was familier with that rather other things, and in 1997, radio modules was not so cheap like today.

But not cost effective, and useful like others which easily available, and even locking with single Rx (2.4GHz) is the disadvantage which we require mostly. This can be used, but preferences comes much later. Again, the criminal mind always want to see/watch after effect (to enjoy! i doubt) and keeping large Tx is not benificial to them as they can be easily recognized. At present, and near future, our Tx will be not the first option to them.

and for LADEN, they are far better and distant than basic aeromodeling.

So, our advantages makes their disadvantage.

Then sundaram sir, insted of keeping document to shopkeeper, the papers should be kept in WPC dept or some govt. approved licencing body with self decleration. Like HAM. I am appreciating Sai uncle's effort to keep us CLEAN, but Course tuning comes before fine tuning, and that is my clarification.

This was in the news recently. Mr. Sai, there is no point in making enemies with the crocodiles if you plan to swim. This is a step in the right direction.


http://www.rfcafe.com/miscellany/smorgasbord/terrorist-radio-controlled-airplane.htm

To use a remote detonation explosive one has to go through the hassles of placing the IED in the desired location, which in most cases of desired loc is closely guarded, access rigorously screened, every entry checked.

Use of Remotely Piloted UCAVs which is very much a reality with OSD and FPV with practically very long reach, saves all the hassles of placing the IED in location. You just fly it in detonate on impact. We do not have any Air defense, and we are just not prepared for this type of threat in most of the sensitive locations.  

Yes I agree with you that Some Govt body should start licensing the use of Radio before the situation gets ugly and places a total ban on this beautiful hobby. As you know this ban is very much happening today by the blanket ban on import of Aero-models and Radios.

Mr Sai's action is very much in the right direction being prepared for an eventuality when he is asked for the details of his sales.

The Idea here is to get some system into the use of  the transmitter  which is a sensitive matter already and can become more sensitive  in the future which is inevitable .
So why not get some regulation on our own rather than act when forced , this way when the time comes to answer authorities   we will already be having a track record  which will make it easier for us  as there will be some  solid ground to prove our intentions.
Further it is also important for us  as all transmitters sold by us can be tracked hence in case of an eventuality as mentioned by Sandy we can safe guard  the interest's of both ourselves and our customers. The serial Number track will settle matters .

Further as an argument the Mobile bit   does not hold too much ground as a counter  I tried it  and was told Mobile companies have a log of all calls and all SMS's    hence it is possible to track any communication activity to the device  if used as a detonator. Where as our 2.4 G is a delicensed citizen band , which cannot be traced .

In our case the Only arguments that can hold ground as per me are :
1)The communication of 2.4 G radios is affected by obstacles and is purely Line of Sight ( LOS ) hence the  LOS range on ground for a 2.4 G communication is very very  limited  as the RC radios are low powered and only have a range of around 300-500 m in air and prone to a lot of interference due to other 2.4 G activity .
2) As  standard security measure jammers are used in the case of VIP Movements which anyway block our  radios communications .

It would be great if other members could add to these then it would help in presenting a few more +'s to WPC in our favour , I think documenting arguments in our favor would help  all when it comes to discussing  with authorities  or when an individual is questioned.

So we thought better to be safe than sorry and better to introduce some self regulation in favour of long term interests

Sai

Its not a surprise that when even the otherwise considered stupid congressmen acknowledged that they should not kill the hobby just because terrorists can use RC for their acts,  just like you dont stop selling Peanut butter to mothers just because fathers can use it for bomb.

This simply show what kind of mature and educated bureaucrats / politicians run this Banana Republic.  I compare such people nothing more than rustic, who can simply be lead to believe anything they don't know/understand, as evil.

But as Sai says, laugh all your way even on poor jokes, if you are destined to live with jokers.
Thats why may be we are called '3rd world country' - its not all due to money after all.

Ujjwal ,
The way I see it is that  regulations coming into the hobby is an indication that  the hobby is being noticed now its visiblity  is higher now  and also the fact that it is growing . Thus the authorities  feel a need now to impose certain guidelines for the hobby and its various components .  Which is not all that bad as it  makes it better for all those involved .
AMA and similar bodies will  be all the more relevant  and stronger when the hobby is better regulated.

I would not take it as stumbling block preventing development , I would rather take it as stepping stones in making the future better ( though it may be a bit inconvenient in the short term ).

Responsibility & Discipline is required in everything... and this is only gonna prove useful. Documentation of anything we use/buy/sell is a good practice. And when there is discipline then if there is wrong done only 'that individual' needs correction.
Today all our Sim cards needs proper ID proofs and all phones have IMEI numbers... when that came into effect many non complainant models jus stoped working... my point is... Mobile user and the industry only grew...
Proper Documentation will only allow this hobby to grow and will only make it more safer...

Here in my town - while paying bills.. all Govt offices take down serial no: of Rs 500/- and Rs 1000/- next to your name or contact no: (inconvenient ?? ) NO.
Am I printing/using fake notes? NO.

We can't stop and analyze, if this move Prevents or Protects us from danger, We must encourage it if it Promotes the hobby and brings about Responsibility & Discipline.

cheers

Here is a format of the undertaking  that has to be signed and details to be provided.

This can be downloaded from here  if required by any one who wants to buy a radio from us.

Sai

Fair enough Sai,
The documentation is less cumbersome than that required to buy a mobile SIM. and we do need to provide details of identity to buy a SIM so why not a Rx/Tx
regards,
Avijit

quite clean paper. Is there any process to send fill up form over NET with sending durng booking ?

Here is the form enclosed .
We are trying to make this  down loadable from the site as well.

Rgds
Sai