i had the same experience with this courier company when madhavan sent me yummy cub. the cub's rudder was damaged and also the wings had some damage. but he sent the replacement rudder at no additional cost. he also asked me to sent a mail with pics which he could show to the courier company and take some action against them. i never sent that mail and now i am thinking if i had sent that mail, would it have made any difference to augustine's parcel?

i sent him all pics,
asked him if he could help in rebuilding it, no communication whatsoever, engine ? it is a long story, Rajaram too had similar experience with the Yummy cub, i think some of these small time wannabe LHSs are not able to standby their deals. No offense meant though

my condolences...
When the cat's away, the mice will play ....

I cannot believe a rat doing all this. I mean is the warehouse of the courier company located in some zoo or wildlife sanctuary.

Ah one other thing, from the time Mr Madhavan said it is shipped to the time it was delivered to me, the time it took was 1 months and 11 days, that too after innumerable phone calls. After all this I think i, and since the deal was done through the forum, we all, atleast owe an explanation from Mr Madhavan, because as far as i see it, i didn't get the product as promised, i honestly refuse to believe it was the rats that belonged to the courier company. So after hearing all the reactions of the forum members and speaking to couple of them who were bitten by the 'Mad Bug', i have concluded, it was easy money for him for a rotten model and engine, we came in empty handed i am sure we are going to go like that (Except for a coin for the boatman ), those easy bucks, like i said, was my tithe, charity, what else to say.  

if he fails to do so, i am going to take it other forums as well.

  Excuse me, for butting in your thread Augustine, but I too have had a bad experience dealing with Mr Madhavan, He easily managed the following:-

1.  Created a rift between two acquaintances.
2.  Soured up a deal.
3.  Got a delivery done free of cost but charged me Rs 800 for it . Claimed (incorrectly) it was paid to the person delivering it.
4.  Took the money on 07 Dec 10 and I picked up the plane from the delivery person on 19 Jan 11.

Can any others having had a similar or better experience (like Crazypilot) please post so we can all know.

Quote from: augustinev on February 17, 2011, 11:36:12 AM
if he fails to do so, i am going to take it other forums as well.

More Rcer forum members burnt their fingers because, non share of experience on this forum.

Quote from: augustinev on February 16, 2011, 08:58:24 AM
I bought this... Engine Damaged (It is not rotating at all, given it to a expert at calcutta, he says the engine is RIP)

Gusty,

I used to strip and tinker with Engines as a kid. Maybe you can get spares from Payless... for anything broken in the OS. You can't just 'move on' from a broken OS.

How can you damage an OS so badly is beyond me  . Can anyone use their imagination as to what could be the damage? 

Quote from: augustinev on February 17, 2011, 11:35:15 AM
those easy bucks, like i said, was my tithe, charity,  

Charity is voluntary!

Waiting for a report from calcutta, prima facie, the engine has been badly banged on its nose, there is a crack of 1" long.

On the crankcase?

Gusty,
I dont think there is anything to move on. Ask the seller to refund the full value of your purchase aginst return of the material, or he can put the damaged material on auction, get the proceed and give that you plus the rmeainder of your full purchase value.

And in retrospect, looking at his original for sale thread, he said the engine was 2 years old, 15 flights. I beleive OS stopped mfg SF series at least two decades (if not more) back.

And the forum member (accused of the act) has been last active yesterday but not even botherd to clear the air over the matter. 

I will request rajaram to tell "The Engine Story"(Sounds like a good title for a Hollywood movie), how the engine ended up with the 'Gullible' me , it wasn't even his engine to start with apparently, he picked up a banged up engine from One Mr X and fitted it on a Rat eaten model and shoved it down my throat. Like I said 'tithe'

If anyone wants a FUTABA 10 channel radio ... please feel free to contact me I have one which is paper thin 

unused, new in the box? devil you,   you stole my deal grrrr

Quote from: divay99 on February 17, 2011, 06:11:15 PM
If anyone wants a FUTABA 10 channel radio ... please feel free to contact me I have one which is paper thin 

Divay bhaiya, what is your asking price? 

I think both the seller and the buyer seem to have underestimated the  destructive power of Indian Couriers   (even main stream ones not to speak  other small ones ) and that to big  time  by  shipping  a fully assembled 60 size  balsa plane. That too from Kerala to Kolkatta    
From my experience  with couriers even CF Rods wrapped in EPP and packed into an electric  coduit pipe and foam planes 1/4 th the size of a NIB boxed Tiger 60 leave alone an assembled one have reached in 2 pieces .
In fact  some of our earlier customers would remember that we used to send out VQ models  Crated in a Wooden frame  on top Foam and Corrugated board packing below .

In my opinion this deal was bound to end in this situation the moment it was sealed.

My Price = Best Price 

Quote from: rcforall on February 17, 2011, 09:58:09 PM
I think both the seller and the buyer seem to have underestimated the  destructive power of Indian Couriers  ;
In my opinion this deal was bound to end in this situation the moment it was sealed.

The air frame may be the couriers fault, But what about the engine?

I have also dealt with Mr Madhvan. I took Futaba FF7 from him(Rx+Tx). Never flied or checked the range but checked it once at home and it works fine.

I too have faced problem with this ST courier. My product was delivered 22 days after dispatch, though it was through AIR. My god, i dont know whether they ship through Hot Air Baloons or what that  took so much time through Air Mail. Further i had to make several phonecalls to STcourier office from Kerela to lucknow , nearly all branches.Further many times Mr. Madhvan was told that the courier had been dispatched to me..

Madhvan Sir, i hope u will take some action. Or you can switch over to other good couriers like DTDC etc.

On engine, there is rusting, which might have been caused by the damp conditions of the courier storages or during transportation.
But crack

like i said he was supposed to send it in a ply box, for which he took 1600 extra from me, he pocketed that too, i didn't want it to be so nasty, because greed is the worse than any other vices, i hope he takes a lesson of 'drop the greed ' from here

Quote from: rcforall on February 17, 2011, 09:58:09 PM
I think both the seller and the buyer seem to have underestimated the  destructive power of Indian Couriers   (even main stream ones not to speak  other small ones )

I disagree with Mr Sai on this issue as whatever i have got from rcforallin, have come in good. it came in DTDC, some of them more fragile stuff like the GWS Slowfly, not a scratch and not in any plybox.

got many aeroplanes from Pravin and RCD fast and not a scratch, not in any plybox. i am yet to pay from for some of pravins models, though i am happily test flying them.

You should have seen the packing that Vikas (findvikas) did for the stuff that he sent to me, par excellence, i asked him to leave Microsoft and start packers and movers, he'll atleast make more money

Sumit packed the motor like a baby.

VK's packing and the care that he takes for his stuff, is professional.

Anam Follows up his stuff, sees to it that it is packed in front of him and follows it up till delivery.

Karthik spends hours on end to explain how to go about assembly, to power pack and et all.

Balsa gliders from VC was gift wrapped and i didn't even bother to open it to see before i presented it to the school children, those kids are still chucking them around.

i think it is the care that you take as a responsible seller in ensuring your products are delivered on time and in a good condition.

this is the only bad experience of mine, for whatever i have taken from people from the forum or otherwise, they all have been good, BUT like our news channels people don't want to listen to good things, bad publicity attracts more attention.

MOVE ON guys, coz , i have. the only RIDER is , like Anwar bhai said, beware of certain blokes

I have had my bad share of experiences with Indian courier services ( not meaning to protect the seller here in any way, but to recount my experiences over the last 12 yrs of buying from Indian suppliers ).
- On 3 occasions, ARFs from PayLessFlyMore were damaged - 2 of them were real bad as if someone had stomped on the box ruining the wings/structure. PLFM replaced one of the airplanes, but i had to loose the second one. the third one is still with me, but minor damage only. ( Trackon courier )
- On my recent purchase from RCD, an EasyStar has come damaged ( Note: Via BlueDart courier )
- Seen Mr. Moss come badly damaged for a friend here, locally ( from RCFOrAll via DTDC )

Always keep my fingers crossed whenever i book an ARF in a double box.
Would never attempt to buy an assembled plane, unless someone delivers it personally. Agree with sSai that the fate was sealed at the moment the mutual decision was taken to ship the assembled airframe by courier.