HoverBot v2

Started by Swapnil, March 17, 2012, 08:24:27 PM

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VC

How did I miss this awesome creation?! {:)} {:)} {:)} {:)} {:)} :salute: :hatsoff:

Btw, the 'secret' solution maybe Silicon Spray??? ??? :headscratch: :giggle:
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Swapnil

Your appreciation is like an oscar award for me VC sir!  ;D
The solution is simply permanent marker ink mixed with moderately diluted glue. I also used a layer of light and supple packing tape for use on tar roads.

saurabhreigns

can i use a brushed motor for lifting a 400 grams,
18"x8" ,thermocol base and parachute fabric skirt.?
how many rpms and voltage would it require with a prop size of 6x4(or 8x3.5 whichever is best suited).
and what will it cost?
:-)

Swapnil

You can certainly do that. My 1st hovercraft used a 12V 12000 RPM brushed motor and could easily lift around 1 Kg with a 3-blade 4x3 prop.

The motor+prop combo cost me Rs. 390. I moved on to brushless because I didn't have a brushed ESC then and wanted a linear lift.

saurabhreigns

I hav a small rc heli (cheap chinese toy.),both of its motors are working(when connected directly to a regulated voltage power supply).
It has counter rotating blades. can i use its motor(s) with a new prop for lifting the hovercraft?
Its worthy enough to mention  here that the motors are very small (1cm dia,2cm height).
Also i would like to know whether it can be used for propulsion system(if not for lifting)?
:-)

Swapnil

O.K, let me tell you that I tried a range of DC motors for the thrust system to keep weight low.
(3V, 6V 8000 RPM, 9V 15000 RPM, 12V 12000 RPM, 12V 16000 RPM etc). Only the 12V 16000 RPM motor gave good enough thrust without heating up.

Because, even though the hovercraft is hovering (frictionless), the thrust motors have to overcome inertia.

I have micro helis too. Their motors certainly can't be used for a hovercraft of size 18" x 8".

saurabhreigns

Quote from: Swapnil on April 01, 2012, 07:01:21 AM
You can certainly do that. My 1st hovercraft used a 12V 12000 RPM brushed motor and could easily lift around 1 Kg with a 3-blade 4x3 prop.

The motor+prop combo cost me Rs. 390. I moved on to brushless because I didn't have a brushed ESC then and wanted a linear lift.
can u please tell me the dimensions and skirt specs of this build?it would be great if u can give some pics/videos of it
:-)

Swapnil

The skirt design is really simple. The dimensions are (side length in inches) x (6 to 8 inches). Mine is 12x8
The skirt corner design is shown in the pic below.

ved

Hi Guys
I have made a hovercraft. I want to know how to connect tow ESC to the receiver? I will be connecting the thrust ESC to pit channel. Pls tell me how can I connect it.
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mr ceo

very nice build swapnil.
i am too making a hovercraft i have question.
how did u achieve torque balancing.did u use counter rotating props..
waiting for your reply..

Swapnil

No, I used a small 3-blade prop for lift with a differential thrust setup.

mr ceo


streetjerk

#37
can u pls explain what is this elevon mixing ?  and the other mixing that u tried on your funbot ?  ???

lastRites

I know this is a pretty old thread but I wanted to ask something as I am working on something similar.
How did you interface the RC system with the arduino due? The way I see it is that the receiver outputs PPM and the arduino outputs a modified PPM to the escs right? How does one accomplish that reliably?
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Swapnil

Hmmm...I don't really understand your query. I analyzed the signals from both the systems on my CRO a long time ago and they were both definitely PWM signals (which is what a servo/ ESC expects).

You don't need to go after the PPM signal unless you need to use more than 2 channels with the arduino.

Also, I did not use an arduino Due (which uses an ARM Cortex M3). I used the Duemilanove and might have shortened it to 'due' while typing.

Arduino generated 'servo-signals' are very reliable and work flawlessly with RC servos and ESCs. I've worked with the servo library a lot since this project. It's very convenient to use and doesn't mess with the rest of your code or hardware. 

lastRites

The receiver outputs PPM definitely. PPM may look like PWM on the scope as the signals are similar. Correct me if I am wrong
Did you use interrupts?
It is the pervading law of all things organic and inorganic,
Of all things physical and metaphysical,
Of all things human and all things super-human,
Of all true manifestations of the head,
Of the heart, of the soul,
That the life is recognizable in its expression,
That form ever follows function. This is the law.

Swapnil

I'm afraid you have a misconception.

The output on each channel is most certainly PWM.
PPM utilizes time division multiplexing to pack multiple (about 9 - 10) PWM signals in a single time-frame. There is indeed a PPM signal at the receiver output before it is de-multiplexed for separating channels. And one needs to tap that in order to decode more than 2 channels with the arduino.

If you still have doubts in this regard you should seriously consider brushing-up your theoretical basics or better yet try working with and analyzing the actual hardware and related signals.

I did use interrupts. But it was completely handled by the servo library.   

lastRites

Now I get it. I actually do not own a scope and got my theories a bit messed up. My Tx and Rx communicate through PPM. And the Rx outputs PWM.

Another query though. Did you make use of the pulse-in function?
It is the pervading law of all things organic and inorganic,
Of all things physical and metaphysical,
Of all things human and all things super-human,
Of all true manifestations of the head,
Of the heart, of the soul,
That the life is recognizable in its expression,
That form ever follows function. This is the law.

Swapnil

Yes.  It's good enough for upto 2 channels.

DArkPrince007

What's differential thrust mechanism .?

VC

Differential Thrust, if I am not mistaken, is all about controlling a craft with varying propeller thrusts on the port / starboard (left/right) sides. It negates the use of a rudder.
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