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Title: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 10:52:41 AM
hey friends, i want to make helicopter like in 3 idiot movie...so can you help me where can i find the rotors blade,motors,batteries and any other material need for that rc helicopter....i dnt want camera in this....i want to make only simple rc helicopter which have four rotor
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: iamahuman on December 19, 2010, 11:05:25 AM
Hard for a beginner from what I have read.

For obvious reasons,it is called a 'quadrotor'.

Tons of threads on this.But really difficult for a beginner.

Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: anwar on December 19, 2010, 01:51:08 PM
Search link : http://www.rcindia.org/search2?search=quadrotor
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 03:46:18 PM
i know that as i beginner its too hard but its not impossible.so can you help me and guide me step by step....all the basic things about quadrotor..and from where i get all the material. :help:
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 03:56:01 PM
i want to make rc quadrotor......
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: anwar on December 19, 2010, 03:59:36 PM
Don't mean to discourage you, but please read the existing threads, as 99% of what you are looking for is already posted/answered in them. Do NOT expect people to dump existing relevant information again on this thread.

If after reading the threads you have further queries, be sure to post them here :)
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 05:13:34 PM
hey i m frm gujarat so from which shop i get this parts

1.  4 x TowerPro Motor/ESC combos (25A)
2.  2 x Normal and 2 x Counter rotating 3-blade props
3.  3 x HK401B gyros
4.  3 x V-Tail mixers.
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: iamahuman on December 19, 2010, 06:17:47 PM
You might get all of this at www.hobbyking.com
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 06:33:12 PM
any other shop of mumbai...???
i need motor,battery, rotating 3-blade props...i hve 4 chennal transmitter and reciver........
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: rohitgupta322 on December 19, 2010, 06:48:36 PM
Contact Sai uncle of rcforall he has them see here http://rcforall.co.in/product_info.php/cPath/63/products_id/472
Even indianhobbies have quadrotor combo check http://indianhobbies.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=25_85&products_id=342.
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: anwar on December 19, 2010, 06:55:01 PM
Please note that the v-tail mixer based version has some challenges, as described in this thread :

http://www.rcindia.org/self-designed-diy-and-college-projects/quadrotor-build-thread/

No one on the forum has it working, so be warned before you invest in it.  People on the US forums also have trouble, and some have overcome it with their own custom built mixers (they tweaked the mixer software to work with the timing differences of multiple gyro outputs).
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: bmanoj2 on December 19, 2010, 07:28:19 PM
I saw an ARF kit at Ultimate heli (Dubai) last week
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: anwar on December 19, 2010, 07:58:50 PM
There are multiple ones, like the Parrot AR Drone (more fancy), and the Gaui 330.  Both have been discussed here before, and the Gaui one is more like it : http://www.rcindia.org/helis/gaui-330x-quad-flyer/
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 08:03:10 PM
what is the function of gyros??
and why we have to use brushless motor???can we use toy motor???
and which rotor is very effective 3 or 2 blade???wht is the size of of whole quadrotor?
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 08:34:04 PM
i want cheapest quadrotor...
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: CrazyPilot on December 19, 2010, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 08:34:04 PM
i want cheapest quadrotor...

Me too
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: rohitgupta322 on December 19, 2010, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 08:03:10 PM
what is the function of gyros??
and why we have to use brushless motor???can we use toy motor???
and which rotor is very effective 3 or 2 blade???wht is the size of of whole quadrotor?
I must say that by looking at the above questions, the project seems too ambitious for now. No offence meant, but i think you should first spend time(few days) by studying the elements involved in RC in depth before you go ahead with the project.
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 09:10:31 PM
i have just starting to study about quadrotor.... ;)
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: anwar on December 19, 2010, 09:34:16 PM
These are answered already ("function of gyros", "brushed versus brushless", "what prop is better in general, and specifically for quad").  It is just a matter of searching with the right keywords, and the RIGHT keywords are always arrived at by trial and error !

Don't hate me for saying this :) ...  but this is your first day here, please do take a few days (not months as someone else suggested!) to read up on relevant topics, and I am sure you will spend your money wisely (and avoid costly regrets). Slow and steady... WINS the race :thumbsup:
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 19, 2010, 10:07:30 PM
 :)
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: rohitgupta322 on December 19, 2010, 10:40:01 PM
Quote from: anwar on December 19, 2010, 09:34:16 PM


Don't hate me for saying this :) ...  but this is your first day here, please do take a few days (not months as someone else suggested!)
@Anwar uncle : Well i seem to have exaggerated the time  :giggle: .I just meant that a newbie will require a month or two to acquire the knowledge and the building skills to build a quadrotor. I mean maybe im wrong  :headscratch:. What is you opinion on this?  Anyhow modified my comment. ;D
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: rajathv8 on December 19, 2010, 11:08:08 PM
Buddy you need some patients :) Read up first - there is more than sufficient information on the forum for each of the questions you have asked :)
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: pankaj on December 19, 2010, 11:29:21 PM
JMO :well it's not that tough but it is . I have yet not completed mine as we got into some serious issues of stability ... and maneuverability . following Anwar sir's thread for now just to see  :bow: :bow: .
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: hm162222 on December 23, 2010, 09:47:50 AM
hello frendz,
can any buddy tell me minimum cost of quadrotor??
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: pankaj on December 23, 2010, 12:34:57 PM
minimum cost = 10000  :Rs:
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: Harshit Shahi on April 26, 2012, 06:39:13 PM
Im beginner as well as of stream(CSE), but im so curious about making Quadrotor heli.(3 idiots ) that i came all the way finding this org.
Well asking anything will be stupidity without self workout....so i just ask u admin to give links which are beneficial for this project.


Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: satyagupta on April 26, 2012, 06:44:46 PM
You will find everything in this sub thread http://www.rcindia.org/multirotors/

And use search function of the forum, search for multirotor, quadcopter, tricopter you will get lots of the discussion about the same.
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: Propfella on January 14, 2015, 02:18:25 PM
My answer as to how long it takes to learn is, NEVER. That's the whole joy of RC, you never stop learning. As new flight controllers are let loose on hobbyists we often have to re-learn for new features, how it's tweaked and most importantly how we can make it work better. New ESCs arrive, new designs in motors, receivers, transmitters and everything else to build and run a quadcopter.

I've been building them now for only 18 months, planes for 58 years, (I started at age 8 ) I've built 10 Quadcopters, 2 hexcopters and 1 tricopter and purchased 3 ready mades. I still don't know it all and never will. I'm continually falling behind when it comes to technology. I finally had the KK2 FC under control and now everything's gone computer programmable. Now I have to learn how to do that, but to be honest I think I'll stick to what I know. I think perhaps I've crammed as much data between the ears as there's space for. My brain needs a newer hard drive and more memory. Maybe in 10 years you young guys will be asking how we used to build them in the "old days"

Put on your thinking caps, you're in for a long ride. Study the many posts made on your subject. If you get stuck, ASK, but you have to be seen to be helping yourself. If anyone comes to me and asks endless questions, I'll ask them if they want me to fly their aircraft as well. Helping others is good, helping yourself is even better.

Stu
Title: Re: rc helicopter like in 3 idiot movie
Post by: Propfella on January 16, 2015, 03:27:17 AM
hm162222 asks a number of questions. Gyros are used to tell other electronic components which angle the unit it's connected to is currently at. With the quadcopter, to keep itself level the Flight Controller has to know which way it's orientated. Gyros send signals at a very fast speed to the FC telling it when it's level and if it's not, which way it's angled. Gyros can be found in some digital cameras for anti-shake recordings. Unmanned aircraft, missiles and many other gizmos and gadgets.

Brushless motors are far more robust, faster and less complicated than the brushed motors. As the name suggests there are no brushes rubbing against the armature, this eliminates sparks and wear, therefore the only friction generated is in the bearings of the motor. You could use the brushed variety in a quadcopter, in fact most of the toy copters use them and utilize small gear boxes to step the speed of the motor up. Also the brushless variety  are cheaper to produce. Two bladed props are the most popular version used today. The 3 and four bladed props can be used, but aren't as efficient. A prop works by pushing air in one direction. it works best when the air in front of the blade is at rest. For optimum thrust a prop should be just one bladed, This ensures a cleaner air to bite into. Yes there are one bladed props. They were designed many years ago and worked with a counterbalance being where the 2nd blade would normally be. Some diehard hobbyists in Australia still use the on their control line planes. Such props were extremely hard to balance and fell out of favour. 3 and 4 bladed props are normally used multi prop planes where the pitch of the prop can be varied. Single prop planes and quads plus fixed pitch helicopters use the 2 blades simply because they give the best thrust to power ratio. Modellers usually only use 3 or 4 bladed props for appearance sake, although I did purchase a quadcopter a few years ago which had 3 bladed props. Because they were far too flexible and gave poor thrust I replaced them with 2 bladed props and it performs much better.

A quadcopter can be almost any size. As with anything some people always think bigger is better. In reality bigger is not only much more expensive but can get to a point where any advantage of size is lost due to disadvantages in flight characteristics. Hobbyists are always trying to push the boundaries and there's always someone to try to be bigger and better than anyone else. It's human nature I guess.  There are the tiny toy variety which measure as little as 100mm from motor shaft to motor shaft and the size rises to ??? I think the largest I've seen was one meter and that cost over $5000 USD. Scientists are working on a monocopter about as big as a bumble bee. Then there's the biggest of them all and definitely out of reach of any hobbyist the Boeing V 22 Osprey. From prop tip to prop tip 85 feet. It can be classed as a Duocopter (2 props) when in VTOL (Vertical Take Off and Landing) mode.

Please note, some of my answers can be argued with. I only give answers from memory and prefer not to refer to search engines unless the question requires specific data. Although the answers to all your questions can be found by Googling. :-)

Happy Flying.   Stu